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Post by showtopp12 on Jul 15, 2013 12:30:09 GMT -5
Recently Ron Jaworski has been ranking all 32 NFL starting QBs and his most recent player was Eli Manning at 8. The remaining 7 QBs to be ranked are Rodgers, Brees, Brady, P. Manning, Ryan, Roethlisberger, and Flacco. Joe Flacco. Really? This means that he will be 6th or 7th because the top 5 are set in stone. How is Joe Flacco a top 6 QB? Cuz he gets paid a lot now? Because he won the super bowl? Was Trent Dilfer a top 6 QB when he won the super bowl? I think this is a joke. I'm gonna ramble off the top of my head the QBs who I would rather have instead of Flacco, and we'll see where he ends up.....
Rodgers, Brees, Brady, P. Manning, Ryan, E. Manning, Roethlisberger, Newton, Stafford, Kaepernick, RGIII, Luck, Wilson, Romo, Dalton, Schaub, and Palmer are 100% ahead of Flacco in my book. I'd also say that Cutler and Rivers are right there and would have them easily ahead of him if it weren't for sub par seasons last year, but I'd rather have both of them than Flacco still. Also rather have Mike Vick despite off year last year.
Those aren't in any particular order, but I would put all 20 of them ahead of Flacco, so putting him at 21 would be best case for me. There are also arguments that could be made for young QBs to be better who just haven't developed yet (Tannehill, Weeden, Locker) etc. I'll put Flacco ahead of guys like that for now, but I wouldn't think anything of it if Jaws would have had Flacco at 25. Most overrated over paid athlete in football and possibly all of sports.
Baltimore 6-10 this year is my prediction. We'll see how he does
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jul 15, 2013 14:09:09 GMT -5
Sam...man I love ya but dude, you are wrong as hell on this. There is no way that there are 20 quarterbacks in the NFL that are better than Joe Flacco.
The only QB that Jaws has Flacco ranked ahead of that I disagree wiht is Eli Manning.
As for the list, I think Jaws has it pretty spot on. Not a chance in hell that Dalton, Cutler, Romo, Newton, Palmer, etc are ahead of Flacco. Not a chance.
However, I will agree with you that he is overpaid NFL player.
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Post by showtopp12 on Jul 16, 2013 15:40:28 GMT -5
Ben Roethlisberger was just put at 7. I hate Big Ben, but there is no chance in hell that he is worse than Joe Flacco just zero percent. I'm not sure if Jaws is trying to keep the Ravens relevant by putting Flacco this high, or what because he's not very good and the Ravens will not be very good this year either
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Post by cerebralassassin on Jul 17, 2013 8:14:07 GMT -5
I don't think you are giving Joe Flacco enough credit. Ben Rothlisberger is a good quarterback, but when he was an awesome quarterback he had so many weapons around him, Bettis, Heath Miller, Holmes, Buress, and Randle El. Joe Flacco has Ray Rice, and Torrey Smith. I think he makes their tight ends better then they really are. I'm a fan of Joe Flacco except two weeks out of the year. I say he is number 6 on this count down, with Rodgers #1, Manning #2, Brady #3, Brees #5
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jul 17, 2013 9:00:52 GMT -5
I will give you that. I would take Big Ben over Flacco right now. However, the Ravens will be a solid team this season. I feel they are once again the team to beat in the AFC North.
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Post by showtopp12 on Jul 17, 2013 13:40:04 GMT -5
The Bengals are the team to beat 100 percent. The argument I heard yesterday on NFL network was if the Bengals are the most talented team in the AFC. After hearing that I thought about it and I'll say Denver is more talented only because Peyton Manning, but after that I see the Bengals right there with anyone in AFC. If the Bengals don't win the division I will be in shock
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Post by showtopp12 on Jul 17, 2013 14:44:42 GMT -5
Ok, now Jaworksi is just embarrassing himself and ESPN at this point. Just ranked Drew Brees at number 6. Like is this a joke? Is the whole world being Punkd? Where is Ashton Kutcher? Joe Flacco better than Drew Brees? This has to be the first time in all of history those words were used in that order to form a sentence. Even the biggest Joe Flacco supporter has to agree this is borderline insane
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jul 18, 2013 10:41:56 GMT -5
Denver is def more talented and most peoples pick to win the Super Bowl. I say the Ravens are the team to beat only because until somebody knocks them off their perch, they are the class of the AFC North. However, I do think that if Dalton steps up and plays the way everyone expects, this team can definitely make a run, deep deep into the playoffs. As for Jaws, I would have to  at him putting Brees below Flacco...I will give you that. |
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Post by cerebralassassin on Jul 19, 2013 7:24:56 GMT -5
Houston is still a very good team, with a solid defense, a great run game and a qb with that might be ready to take the next step and become a Super Star. Houston is my pick to at least get to the AFC championship with Denver. Bengals first round loss as a division winner,
AFC North - Bengals
AFC South - Houston
AFC West - Denver
AFC East - Miami
AFC Wildcard #1 - New Englad
AFC Wilcard #2 - Colts
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Post by cerebralassassin on Jul 19, 2013 7:26:30 GMT -5
NFC North - Green Bay
NFC South - Atlanta
NFC West - San Fran
NFC East - Giants
NFC Wildcard #1 - Chicago
NFC Wildcard #2 - Tampa Bay
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jul 19, 2013 9:02:18 GMT -5
Those are solid picks. We will be recording a football preview podcast within the next couple of weeks so I will unveil my picks on that show. I will keep you all in tune with when that will be posted!
What a tease!
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at him putting Brees below Flacco...I will give you that.