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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jul 23, 2013 8:18:47 GMT -5
It appears that MLB is serious about cleaning up the game. Yesterday, the league suspended, without pay, former NL MVP and Brewers star Ryan Braun for the rest of the season (65 games).
With that suspension, Braun will be forfeiting approx $4 million in salary. This is a huge statement made by baseball. I am not going to lie, Ryan Bruan can kiss my ass. This is why I say that. I personally don't care if these guys take roids. What they do to their bodies is their business, not mine. Just don't lie about it. Don't come out and act like we are stupid and the people collecting the samples are a joke. Not to mention, you made your friends, who defended you, look absolutley moronic, ie. Aaron Rodgers. My hope is that Ryan Braun never wears a Brewers uniform again and personally, I don't care if he ever wears another MLB uni again. The fact he lied about it absolutely infuriates me.
It seems that MLB isnt done and there will be more heads rolling. It looks like A Rod will get taken down hard as well.
It will be interesting to see how baseball handles the rest of the cases that are coming up. One thing is certain, they aren't messing around.
Thoughts?
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Post by edubbs on Jul 23, 2013 9:10:38 GMT -5
They are still messing around... Braun will be back next year being cheered for at all the home games. He will still be making millions. His reputation is tarnished but his financial security will still be there. In the eyes of a lot of players that is still worth it. Until lifetime bans start coming down and clubs start suing their players for their money back, this will continue. A 65 game suspension and 4mill loss is a slap on the wrist to Braun who is signed through 2020 at 145.5 mill.
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Post by edubbs on Jul 23, 2013 9:11:42 GMT -5
I shouldn't say signed for 145.5 but that is what his contract will be in totality. Regardless, he essentially lost less than 3 percent of his pay.
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jul 24, 2013 11:07:22 GMT -5
I dont think MLB is messing around with Alex Rodriguez. Reports are, A Rod is facing a lifetime ban...wow...how the mighty have fallen
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Post by edubbs on Jul 24, 2013 11:41:28 GMT -5
If that happens then yeah... They aren't messing around and I applaud them.
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jul 24, 2013 13:50:00 GMT -5
I totally agree. It would be great to see a big big named get slammed.
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Post by cerebralassassin on Jul 24, 2013 15:27:20 GMT -5
I disagree. I mean don't get me wrong A-Rod is and forever will be one of the most hated men in baseball, but a lifetime ban is riduclious. You have to admit that eventually people like Barry Bonds, and Mark McGuire will get into the Hall o Fame, and you can pretty easily say that Barry Bonds and Mark McGuire cheated the same way A-Rod did. So how can MLB ban one of those players for life, when other players will eventually be put into the Hall O Fame for the same offense. Do I like PED in baseball, no, but do I understand why they were used, by so many people, absolutely.
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Post by edubbs on Jul 25, 2013 8:07:51 GMT -5
I think they'd be looking at lifetime bans if they were in the league longer. Baseball is just now taking PEDs seriously and the only way to curb PED use is to make the risk outweigh the reward of PED usage. Right now the reward to juice is much MUCH greater. Braun is still going to be owed something like 114 mill when he comes back next year. Who knows what kind of player he will be when he is off the juice... Post juicers' bodies usually don't hold up well.
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Post by cerebralassassin on Jul 25, 2013 9:02:43 GMT -5
I have a question would you rather have a "post juicer" or a "post Drug Addict" (I.E. Josh hamilton) Just a question not trying to make a point or anything. Both are alleged to Age your Body a lot faster then it should. I believe doctors say that Josh Hamilton's internal Age is like 42 or something like.
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jul 26, 2013 9:59:26 GMT -5
Honestly, I dont see Bongs or McGwire ever entering into the Hall of Fame. I am fine with juicers being banned for life. They cheated to gain a competitive advantage. If Pete Rose gets banned for life, for not cheating but for betting for his team, then I dont see why juicers dont either.
I think the contracts for caught users should be void and they dont get paid as well. I think it is crap that these guys can use and still get paid after they get caught.
Being a drug user doesn't give you a competitive advantage like PED do...
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