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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jul 19, 2014 21:22:56 GMT -5
With Lebron James heading back to Cleveland, thus dismantling the "Big Three," who is the team to beat now in the East? The Knicks are still out of it for at least another season.
Lance Stephenson is headed to Charlotte, so that takes away a good player from Indiana.
To me, the team to beat in the East is either the Bulls or the Cavaliers.
Thoughts?
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Post by Reginald Bushington on Aug 8, 2014 8:38:56 GMT -5
Cavs! Bulls will not stay healthy long enough to compete.
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Post by showtopp12 on Sept 3, 2014 12:46:22 GMT -5
Even without Lance, the Pacers would have contended. Without PG though, they have no chance.
I hate Lebron. If you're my friend you know that. But all bias aside, I think the Bulls are the team to beat. I'll take Rose, Noah, and Gasol over LBJ, Irving, and Love. Not to mention Jimmy Butler, Dougie McBuckets, Taj Gibson, Aaron Brooks, Mirotic, and some nice spot up guys like Bairstow and Dunleavy.
Everyone is gonna think I'm crazy, but Kevin Love is the most overrated player in the NBA. Sure he puts up big numbers, but the guy has never played a meaningful game of basketball in his entire career. Never even sniffed the playoffs. "But his team sucked" Bull crap. Real winners get it done. I see his number dropping off big time just like Bosh did when he left Toronto. And when it comes to nut time in the playoffs, I wouldnt be looking for Love to be the answer.
I would be SHOCKED if Cleveland won it all this year. That being said, I'll take the Spurts again
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Sept 3, 2014 14:50:03 GMT -5
I would have to say that the Cavs are the team in the East. @showtopp I have to agree with you about Love. I think he is overrated as well. I wasnt a fan of getting rid of Wiggins because I think he is going to be a superstar in the NBA. I've always wondered why people love Kevin Love so much...
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Post by showtopp12 on Sept 7, 2014 10:13:21 GMT -5
Yes. Wiggins will be similar to Kobe. Not going to put up the numbers/championships as Kobe, but similar in style of play. Bad move made by Cleveland front office... I mean Lebron
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Post by Reginald Bushington on Sept 10, 2014 13:06:38 GMT -5
Wiggins has played all of 0 games so far in the NBA. Can we all wait till he puts it in the net to suck his pp.
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Post by showtopp12 on Sept 26, 2014 11:15:13 GMT -5
He's played the same amount of meaningful games as Love has. Most overrated player in basketball
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Post by Reginald Bushington on Sept 30, 2014 13:44:54 GMT -5
Overrated? That comment is the biggest cop out argument I have ever read. Try again with actual numbers. Subjective BS doesn't work in the real world. Please realize he played in the Western Division. There is actual competition over there!
2013-2014 Stats
PPG RPG BLKPG PER
26.1 12.5 0.5 26.97
Yup, overrated. LOL! Move along. Move along.
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Sept 30, 2014 13:50:03 GMT -5
I cant argue numbers, so maybe I wont go with overrated. Does overappreciated work?
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Post by edubbs on Sept 30, 2014 13:55:40 GMT -5
Personally, I see Love as supporting cast to Lebron. He won't be a super star. Wiggins has the potential to be a superstar. I'd take that potential any day.
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Post by showtopp12 on Oct 6, 2014 8:20:07 GMT -5
Anyone who has played or coached a sport at any level can tell you that it is so much easier to produce when the game essentially doesn't matter. Up or down by 20+ points the pressure comes off and it's easier to produce. Same way when you know going into games that you are not going to the postseason. Can just go out an play freely. Want to see what he does when the lights are on.
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Oct 6, 2014 8:28:59 GMT -5
I would have kept Wiggins over Love. Even though Wiggins hasn't seen a minute in the NBA and Love has put up some numbers, I just think Wiggins will be a fantastic player. With that being said, it will be very interesting to see how the Cavs fare this season.
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Post by edubbs on Oct 7, 2014 12:17:06 GMT -5
Maybe in amateur sports you may careless about what's going on if you are out of the postseason hunt but in the bigs I would say you would have a lot to play for regardless if you are in the postseason hunt or not. A team that is clearly out of it is going to be making changes (or should make changes to compete next year)... Would you coast out the year and let your stats dwindle? No. You play hard to keep your spot on the team. Furthermore, Reg is right about the level of competition Love faced. He put up good numbers against teams that were trying reaaaaaally hard to make the post season. The West is much more competitive than the East. Love had serious competition against him and he still put up solid numbers.
With the Cavs though... Love's production will go down and it should go down. He has other high level players around him to help. It will be interesting to see how he fits with a team where he isn't "the" guy.
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Post by showtopp12 on Oct 10, 2014 7:24:20 GMT -5
It was reported yesterday that Bosh said Love will get frustrated playing with Lebron. Essentially saying his stats will decrease and he will not play as big of a role while in Lebron's and Irving's shadow. Is this Bosh just being sour because Lebron hasn't talked to him since he left Miami? Or does he have a valid point? Bosh summed up what I've been saying. Bosh's numbers in Toronto his last year was 24 points and 11 rebounds. Every year in Miami they went lower and lower: 19 and 8, 18 and 8, 16 and 7, 16 and 6. Kevin Love last season put up 26 and 12 numbers, very similar to Bosh last year in Toronto. To think he'll have those same numbers is not realistic, and I'm not sure how he will handle not being the man. We'll see, but I'm not big on Love this year
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Oct 30, 2014 9:19:45 GMT -5
bestintheworld44 says the Cavs are going to win it all this year. I say not a chance
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