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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jun 26, 2013 8:29:49 GMT -5
I am saying it right now, the Cincinnati Reds are done. The Reds will not make the playoffs this season. I know its only June 26, and the Reds are sitting 3.5 games back, but that amount is insurmountable. At least for this years version of the Reds.
Below are some reasons why this team is done.
- The bullpen has been atrocious. I know we've had some injuries, but they just aren't getting the job done.
- Very inconsistent hitting
- Lack of RH power bat in middle of lineup
- Continue to struggle against good teams
The stretch coming up, to August is extremely tough. I don't think this team can overcome that. Homer Bailey has been lackluster this season. Ludwick is out until at least mid-August. The Cardinals are built to win, this season and for many more to come. I just don't see this club being able to overcome the defecit we are in now.
Thoughts?
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Post by coach on Jun 26, 2013 8:47:26 GMT -5
Your writing a team off that would be in the playoffs at this current moment? And they are in that spot by 6 games....This is a ridiculous conversation in June....
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jun 26, 2013 8:48:50 GMT -5
Correct, they would be in the playoffs now. The problem is, the playoffs don't start now. They start in October, and by that time, the Reds will not be in it.
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Post by edubbs on Jun 26, 2013 9:03:00 GMT -5
This Reds team has more mood swings than a woman 8 months pregnant. They are cold right now but they will warm up. All in all this is an above average team that is good enough to get a wild card play in spot. Hopefully, they are hot then.
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jun 26, 2013 9:05:40 GMT -5
I dont see this team overcoming a lackluster bullpen, lack of a righthanded power bat and inconsistent hitting. Not to mention this team cant beat an above .500 team...
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Post by edubbs on Jun 26, 2013 9:28:52 GMT -5
This team certainly has problems but so does a lot of winning teams. If we add an arm to the bullpen and a couple guys get hot namely Phillips and Votto, we will be in "ok" shape.
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Post by coach on Jun 26, 2013 12:45:05 GMT -5
If you think the reds won't add pieces you are sorely mistaken. Jocketty will get a RH bat, guys will get back to their norms.
This team isn't going on extended losing streaks, they are just dragging their feet. If you are good enough to drag your feet and still have a significant lead in the wc...your pretty good...
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jun 26, 2013 12:48:33 GMT -5
Finally...got some solid discussion going on...in all seriousness, I do think the Reds will have some trouble down the line. However, with a 6 game lead in the WC, the Reds will have to go on a huge swoon to give that up. I do see the Pirates staying in the race. Especially, because they will get AJ Burnett and Wandy Rodriguez back.
I know that Walt will definitely add a RH bad. I have continued to hear Giancarlo Stanton's name brought up with the Reds. The question is, would you be willing to give up Homer Bailey as part of a package to get Stanton?
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Post by edubbs on Jun 26, 2013 13:17:44 GMT -5
I don't see Bailey being a part of any package to the Marlins. He will be eligible for arbitration and too much for a penny pinching GM so he'd be there for the remainder of this year only. So, like Arroyo, just keep him this year and use him while he can help the club. The Marlins will want prospects... I'd say Cingrani, Hamilton, and at least two other marginal to good prospects... AT LEAST.
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jun 26, 2013 13:20:53 GMT -5
If I were Walt, I would work out a trade that would not include Cingrani. I think the Marlins would take Homer. I would gladly add Hamilton in that trade as well. I think he is a little over hyped.
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Post by edubbs on Jun 26, 2013 13:25:19 GMT -5
5 million this year for Homer and I'd imagine around the same to maybe 6.5 mill to keep him around. They are too cheap for that.
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jun 26, 2013 13:26:53 GMT -5
I dont know about that. I can see them liking a young, strong arm like Homer's.
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Post by edubbs on Jun 26, 2013 13:33:24 GMT -5
Stanton is young and they control him till like 2017 I think.
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jun 26, 2013 13:34:34 GMT -5
Thats why he needs to be in a Reds jersey
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Post by edubbs on Jun 26, 2013 13:35:33 GMT -5
And the reason we won't get him lol
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