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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jul 5, 2013 13:24:20 GMT -5
WOW.
Nothing else I can really say when I heard the news that Butler head coach, Brad Stevens was leaving his post as the head man at Butler University to take the same job with the Boston Celtics.
Previous big name college coaches have failed when they tried to jump to the NBA. Will Stevens be another failure or will he actually be able to succeed in the NBA?
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Post by edubbs on Jul 5, 2013 14:49:08 GMT -5
I think Brad Stevens is a great COLLEGE coach. Dealing with NBA players is a whole different story and I am not sure he can deal with them.
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Post by showtopp12 on Jul 8, 2013 8:43:05 GMT -5
Think he'll be great. Best coach in college basketball at the time, and it's not like the Celtics are a group of veterans. Their average age is around 25 years old, so they're almost like a college team themselves. They will be extremely good in a few years with all the draft picks and young talent they'll have... Still see success early with Rondo still there. Top 3 best PG in the nba
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Post by edubbs on Jul 8, 2013 9:45:35 GMT -5
Rondo is solid but aren't they trying to unload him too?
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jul 8, 2013 11:15:01 GMT -5
I did hear that. I have heard that Rondo is a major pain in the ass to deal with. Will be interesting to see how they handle the Rondo situation.
The best thing for Stevens is the fact that if this doesn't workout in the NBA, he can come back to college basketball to a very good program. If he comes back, he wont be coming back to an NKU or something like that, it would be to a very good team.
I wish him nothing but the best because he is truly a fantastic coach and it is good to see!
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Post by showtopp12 on Jul 8, 2013 17:31:13 GMT -5
I just hate when people, fans, media like to blame coaches for leaving for better opportunities (Kelly to ND, Butch Jones to Tennessee, Pitino to Boston, etc). This is this mans profession. HIs job is to provide for his family the best way that he can, and this is that way. If you were working at a law firm and another firm called you with a job that makes more money with better benefits, wouldnt you take it? Don't be a hypocrite. (Not saying any of you are like that, just saying)
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Post by edubbs on Jul 9, 2013 7:21:58 GMT -5
I don't blame him one bit for leaving. I liked watching Butler basketball and I will miss him. The only thing that is truly a bummer is the Butler players signed on to be with Stevens and now they are stuck with someone else. I don't know Butler and Stevens' contract but, in general, when is a contract going to mean anything?
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jul 10, 2013 12:27:51 GMT -5
I dont blame these guys at all for leaving. You have to take care of yourself and your family first and foremost.
However, the one thing that drives me nuts is the contract situation. These coaches/players never honor their contracts. They bolt when they get the chance and that drives me nuts. If there are going to be contracts that wont be honored, then coaches/players should sign only 1 year deals. If you dont then you MUST HONOR YOUR CONTRACT.
The only thing I didnt like about the Kelly to ND, was the way that all went down. It wasnt very professional. Thats all.
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Post by edubbs on Jul 10, 2013 12:39:00 GMT -5
I say for however many years are left on your contract when you leave is how many years your new school will be bowl ineligible.
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Post by cerebralassassin on Jul 12, 2013 7:35:10 GMT -5
That will never play out. The thing is a CEO or any business leader can change companies at any time. These indviduals are also under contract. However nobody ever gets their panties in a bunch when they move. Thinking of the coach as a CEO. Sports is a business. I do agree that the kids (17, 18, 19 year old kids) are put in a very tough situation; however as long as sports are driven by the all mighty dollar, this will continue to happen. A way to combat this is to remove the transfer restriction for kids, or to remove the age limit on enter professional sports. That would take the stress and the unknowing of weather a coach will be around for 4 years, if the kid has a freedom to transfer at will (barring academic elibility). I think the bigger issue is about how the NCAA is trying to keep control of something that in fact never had control of in the first place. you can control competition and advancement, just ask the government how that worked when they tried to regulate the airline industry, or the banking industry. It never works.
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Post by ChrisAsbrockFTI on Jul 12, 2013 8:37:10 GMT -5
That is very true. I never thought of it that way, with a CEO type situation. That is very true. Like you stated assassin, this will never change. With that being the case, I am all for them removing the transfer restrictions for kids, especially when a coach decides to leave.
The NCAA is so ass backwards though, this will never come to fruition.
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